After losing first debate with Biden, Trump backs away from the second debate

Trump vows not to participate in virtual debate with Biden

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump vowed Thursday not to participate in next week's debate with Democratic nominee Joe Biden after organizers announced it will take place virtually because of the president's diagnosis of COVID-19.

“I’m not going to do a virtual debate," Trump told Fox Business News, moments after the nonpartisan Commission on Presidential Debates announced the changes.

The shakeup comes a week before Trump and Biden were set to square off for the second presidential debate in Miami. Biden's campaign insisted its candidate was ready to move forward, but the future of the event is now in serious doubt.

The Commission on Presidential Debates made the decision unilaterally, citing the need "to protect the health and safety of all involved with the second presidential debate.”


  • To Whom It May Concern: You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own "facts".

    There are two sides to this discussion: some say Trump won; some say Biden won. It all depends on your political affiliation and leaning. So that is how it is.
  • The Commission should either cancel the virtual format or have a debate in a setting similar to the Vice Presidents' debate: flexiglass barriers between the two Presidents as long as they can hear as well as see each other.
  • Did you even notice, marc, that the initial post in this thread had nothing to do with who won the first debate? This thread only had to do with the decision of the Commission to convert the second debate from a town hall style debate to a virtual debate due to the apparently substantial risk of COVID-19 infection. (A fact.) And the apparently avowed decision of the president to forego the debate because the Commission had changed the format (also a fact).

    And it would appear, despite your recommendation, that whether the second debate goes forward depends more on the president's mood than any decision of the Commission (my opinion).

    So while you can quote the late great Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, you should at least figure out in advance whether the quote is even applicable to the subject you criticize. No opinions are set forth in the initial article quoted at the beginning of the thread. Only facts.

    Just saying....
  • Here's another fact, marc. The Commission has canceled the planned October 15 debate, scheduled to take place in Miami. It did so apparently because of the president's refusal to participate in a virtual debate.

    From the CNN article lede:

    The Commission on Presidential Debates on Friday canceled the second debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden after the President declined to do a virtual debate despite concerns over his Covid-19 diagnosis, organizers said.

    No opinions, apparently, only facts. No need for plexiglass, I guess.
  • marc, you want facts about who won the Biden/Trump debate? Great. Here you go. Read it and Reap(er)

    Post-debate CNN poll: Six in 10 say Biden won the debate

    Biden is still leading in the polls, and voters say he won his first debate against Trump

    There’s no real question that Biden won the first presidential debate

    Biden surges to 14-point lead over Trump after caustic first debate, poll finds

  • Sarem Chuuk, so you say "the initial post in this thread had nothing to do with who won the first debate". My answer: Just read the title of the post. It's very clear.
  • It's good that the Commission cancelled it. Trump is not scared of face to face debate. The proposed virtual format is full of unpredictable and unseen things.

    One of the concerns, I read, is what about if Biden people would set up teleprompters to provide responses that Biden can read and put forth as his own responses. What about if he has a listening device which will be connected to people who will provide him his answers to Trump.

    What about if a team of people will write answers and questions; and even cut and paste to Biden's computer; and all he does will be to click the keyboard?

    While I don't really care about the outcome of the debate or the election, my feeling is that Trump did the right thing by not allowing the Debate Commission to dictate the terms of the debate. It's not right.
  • FM, a lot of people don't trust CNN or a lot in the media or political pundits. Just go back to the 2016 election and read all the predictions and analysis by media that Clinton was going to win. All kinds of media people were to sure that Clinton was going to win--even Clinton's camp set up an elaborate celebration party with fireworks--on the election night.

    Needless to say, all such predictions were proven false. Media people have been known to be wrong often times. You can predict and wish but in the end, the voters--Republicans and many Independents--will decide on the outcome.
  • Headlines are for people who are either too lazy to read the article, or despite the article are just looking for something to complain about.

    The rest of your posts just confirm you are and have always been a die hard Trump cultist.

    BTW, Secretary Clinton won the popular vote by 2.7 million votes.
  • It does not matter than Clinton won the popular vote. The election rules said the winner of the electoral college vote wins. "The Electoral College is a body of electors established by the US Constitution, which forms every four years for the sole purpose of electing the president and vice president of the United States".

    Based on that system, the candidates develop their election strategies accordingly. And Trump's strategy was based on counting the electoral college votes by the states. Clinton used the same strategy. Unfortunately, after she lost, then, her supporters start to talk about the number of total votes she got. It does not matter!
  • marc, PREDICTIONS are not the same as FACTS. You seem to think that they are.

    When "the media' or anyone else predicts the future, they are just they did when "predicting' that Hillary would win in 2016.

    When the media reports actual facts, rational people accept those facts... such as the fact that more people voted for Hillary Clinton than voted for Donald Trump in 2016.
  • FM, I know it's a fact that Clinton received more votes than Trump as reported. But that does not matter when it comes to the election of the US President and Vice President. That's a constitutional fact.
  • Absolutely correct, marc.

    And it's a constitutional fact that the U.S. Constitution can be amended, as it has been 27 times, and may be again before the 2024 election.

    As your hero says, "Stand down and stand by." Change is coming. That is my prediction...soon to be factual.
  • So under Article V of the Constitution, there are different ways to propose and ratify amendments to the Constitution. One: to propose amendments, two-thirds of both houses of Congress can vote to propose an amendment. This sends the proposed amendment to the states for ratification. Three-fourths of the states ratify the proposed amendment, either by their legislatures or special ratifying conventions.

    Two: Or two-thirds of the state legislatures can ask Congress to call a national convention to propose amendments.

    There are other ways.

    So any amendments that are approved thru these processes will be legitimate; and those who believe in Constitution will follow. No argument from me.
  • I was going to start discussion about it but since its relevant i will partake peacefully.

    The Trump campaign reached out the the Biden Campaign via Twitter (lol) to go on a debate without the debate commission. Question from Americans and no moderators from the big news networks.

    The Biden Campaign hasn't responded yet. Typical.

  • edited October 2020
    They will have panels between them like the debate with the VPs a few days ago. With all The CDC guidelines but no debate commission. This is what Trump offered Biden. Biden is scared. Biden wants the debate commission to be there. And he wants teleprompters too. Lol
  • With all due respect, Reaper, why do you believe outright lies from people like Eric Trump?

    Eric Trump spreads false video about Biden using teleprompter in interview
  • Maybe put a person in there with a fly swatter...that way he/she can always hit whoever is talking out of turn.
  • LOL@ a fly swatter. Or a baseball bat?
  • Very good. Polls all from Dems supporting MNM. How appropriate and convincing.

    Safe chunk,

    Note the title posted by FactsMatter.
  • You have no clue, TiT. MNM? LOL What do you think "MNM" stands for?

    And which polls are "from Dems?"

    Better stick to attacking other Christian churches - something you are good at - instead of trying to look like a political pundit
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